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	<title>Comments on: Should MSP CEOs Focus Mainly On Sales?</title>
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		<title>By: Joe Panettieri</title>
		<link>http://www.mspmentor.net/2009/11/18/should-msp-ceos-focus-mainly-on-sales/comment-page-1/#comment-50913</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Panettieri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike: Always good to hear from you. I agree that in most cases, the business owner is perfectly positioned to lead sales because of his/her passion for customer success. 

But there&#039;s that old paradox: Many MSPs were started by techs who aren&#039;t sales/marketing pros. Or is that a stereotype we need to end?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike: Always good to hear from you. I agree that in most cases, the business owner is perfectly positioned to lead sales because of his/her passion for customer success. </p>
<p>But there&#8217;s that old paradox: Many MSPs were started by techs who aren&#8217;t sales/marketing pros. Or is that a stereotype we need to end?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Byrne</title>
		<link>http://www.mspmentor.net/2009/11/18/should-msp-ceos-focus-mainly-on-sales/comment-page-1/#comment-50902</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Byrne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you look at the big picture, sales is truly the single most important element to an MSP’s success.  Having good, technically well rounded engineers helps, but typically plays a larger role in client retention than it does on the sales front end.  After all, the average small business owner wouldn’t know a good technician from a bad one if their life’s depended on it.

Technical staff, RMM &amp; MSP tools, process and infrastructure are all extremely important to supporting &amp; maintaining your customers POST selling them a Managed Service contract.  In order to get anyone to support you first have to tackle the sales game.  For some MSP business owners, sales comes naturally.  Personally, I have always felt that if you can wrap your mind around the sales game you should run with it as there’s nobody better to represent your company!  In the end however, you can’t do both.  Each role requires your full attention and 100% of your focus.  

Mike Byrne
PacketTrap Networks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you look at the big picture, sales is truly the single most important element to an MSP’s success.  Having good, technically well rounded engineers helps, but typically plays a larger role in client retention than it does on the sales front end.  After all, the average small business owner wouldn’t know a good technician from a bad one if their life’s depended on it.</p>
<p>Technical staff, RMM &amp; MSP tools, process and infrastructure are all extremely important to supporting &amp; maintaining your customers POST selling them a Managed Service contract.  In order to get anyone to support you first have to tackle the sales game.  For some MSP business owners, sales comes naturally.  Personally, I have always felt that if you can wrap your mind around the sales game you should run with it as there’s nobody better to represent your company!  In the end however, you can’t do both.  Each role requires your full attention and 100% of your focus.  </p>
<p>Mike Byrne<br />
PacketTrap Networks</p>
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		<title>By: Sean McDonald</title>
		<link>http://www.mspmentor.net/2009/11/18/should-msp-ceos-focus-mainly-on-sales/comment-page-1/#comment-50889</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean McDonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi All,

I don&#039;t know if I agree or disagree with the CEO selling and here is why: In my experience the key to sales success has nothing to do with the person&#039;s role in a company, but rather their ability to manage successful sales campaigns and a formal sales process coupled with an undying urge to close business and the ability to empathize with our prospects/customers.
 
These attributes exist in some CEO&#039;s but not all, and it is important for all of us to realize our specific value to our respective organizations. 

Rarely the key to sales success is not the metrics that we are all used to tracking(attention to detail, interest, capable writter/speaker. etc), but rather a specific personality type. Attributes like urgency, empathy, drive, and believe it or not ego (coming from a career sales professional), all come into account when making up a successful sales person.

Sometimes that’s the CEO and sometimes it&#039;s not, but to add to Rich&#039;s point, it&#039;s not so much about the actual person or role but aligning our skill set to the functions of the company.

Sean E. McDonald
LabTech Software</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi All,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if I agree or disagree with the CEO selling and here is why: In my experience the key to sales success has nothing to do with the person&#8217;s role in a company, but rather their ability to manage successful sales campaigns and a formal sales process coupled with an undying urge to close business and the ability to empathize with our prospects/customers.</p>
<p>These attributes exist in some CEO&#8217;s but not all, and it is important for all of us to realize our specific value to our respective organizations. </p>
<p>Rarely the key to sales success is not the metrics that we are all used to tracking(attention to detail, interest, capable writter/speaker. etc), but rather a specific personality type. Attributes like urgency, empathy, drive, and believe it or not ego (coming from a career sales professional), all come into account when making up a successful sales person.</p>
<p>Sometimes that’s the CEO and sometimes it&#8217;s not, but to add to Rich&#8217;s point, it&#8217;s not so much about the actual person or role but aligning our skill set to the functions of the company.</p>
<p>Sean E. McDonald<br />
LabTech Software</p>
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		<title>By: Vlad Mazek</title>
		<link>http://www.mspmentor.net/2009/11/18/should-msp-ceos-focus-mainly-on-sales/comment-page-1/#comment-50866</link>
		<dc:creator>Vlad Mazek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In short: No.

Hire a sales person.

This type of a question is typically asked by someone that isn&#039;t successful - yet. Wait till you have a bunch of employees and managers underneath you that you have to manage, lead, motivate and mentor as they grow your company - how are you going to do that and get on a sales call at the same time?

-Vlad</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In short: No.</p>
<p>Hire a sales person.</p>
<p>This type of a question is typically asked by someone that isn&#8217;t successful &#8211; yet. Wait till you have a bunch of employees and managers underneath you that you have to manage, lead, motivate and mentor as they grow your company &#8211; how are you going to do that and get on a sales call at the same time?</p>
<p>-Vlad</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Panettieri</title>
		<link>http://www.mspmentor.net/2009/11/18/should-msp-ceos-focus-mainly-on-sales/comment-page-1/#comment-50837</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Panettieri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Rich: Belated thanks for keeping the focus on people rather than tech talk. Figuring out how to delegate has been our biggest challenge at Nine Lives Media Inc. But we&#039;re making progress with new contributors, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Rich: Belated thanks for keeping the focus on people rather than tech talk. Figuring out how to delegate has been our biggest challenge at Nine Lives Media Inc. But we&#8217;re making progress with new contributors, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Forsen</title>
		<link>http://www.mspmentor.net/2009/11/18/should-msp-ceos-focus-mainly-on-sales/comment-page-1/#comment-50819</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich Forsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe, we&#039;re often asked at VirtualAdministrator.com, &quot;What is the most important tool an IT business owner can have?&quot;  Usually the argument focuses on RMM versus PSA.  But I firmly believe that the most important tool any IT business owner can have is a mirror.

Some folks are better at sales.  Some are great technicians, and some are great ops managers.  A successful CEO will ultimately count on the mirror to expose his or her weaknesses and either address them through training or through finding someone who does a better job than they do in those areas.

Let&#039;s face it - most IT companies are started by engineer or &quot;technician&quot; types.  They start out with hard work and genuine excitement, and develop their own &quot;success habits&quot;.  Those habits usually get them to a level where they have more work than they have time - then, they need to figure out how to delegate.  The problem is, they can&#039;t delegate what exists only in their head.  So as Chris says, above, process, workflow, all that stuff that tends to bore IT techs, are absolutely crucial to the next step.

So in many cases, hiring a COO is the right move, not so much because the sales portion of the business is the best place for the owner, but because it&#039;s where he or she is the least exposed.  For me, the ultimate ball game is replacing every one of my functions with people who are better than I am, so that in the end, I am left able to sit around and respond to inciteful industry blogs all day.

Not there yet, but maybe soon :).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe, we&#8217;re often asked at VirtualAdministrator.com, &#8220;What is the most important tool an IT business owner can have?&#8221;  Usually the argument focuses on RMM versus PSA.  But I firmly believe that the most important tool any IT business owner can have is a mirror.</p>
<p>Some folks are better at sales.  Some are great technicians, and some are great ops managers.  A successful CEO will ultimately count on the mirror to expose his or her weaknesses and either address them through training or through finding someone who does a better job than they do in those areas.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s face it &#8211; most IT companies are started by engineer or &#8220;technician&#8221; types.  They start out with hard work and genuine excitement, and develop their own &#8220;success habits&#8221;.  Those habits usually get them to a level where they have more work than they have time &#8211; then, they need to figure out how to delegate.  The problem is, they can&#8217;t delegate what exists only in their head.  So as Chris says, above, process, workflow, all that stuff that tends to bore IT techs, are absolutely crucial to the next step.</p>
<p>So in many cases, hiring a COO is the right move, not so much because the sales portion of the business is the best place for the owner, but because it&#8217;s where he or she is the least exposed.  For me, the ultimate ball game is replacing every one of my functions with people who are better than I am, so that in the end, I am left able to sit around and respond to inciteful industry blogs all day.</p>
<p>Not there yet, but maybe soon <img src='http://c810422.r22.cf2.rackcdn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Panettieri</title>
		<link>http://www.mspmentor.net/2009/11/18/should-msp-ceos-focus-mainly-on-sales/comment-page-1/#comment-50818</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Panettieri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris: The documentation seems to be the hard part for me. We&#039;ve been hiring bloggers recently and I find that a lot of my knowledge is in my head rather than documented somewhere. So, the documentation process has started here. 

Let us know how your own efforts are going. I&#039;d welcome the opportunity to speak with you and your COO in 2010 when you&#039;re fully focused on marketing and R&amp;D.
-jp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris: The documentation seems to be the hard part for me. We&#8217;ve been hiring bloggers recently and I find that a lot of my knowledge is in my head rather than documented somewhere. So, the documentation process has started here. </p>
<p>Let us know how your own efforts are going. I&#8217;d welcome the opportunity to speak with you and your COO in 2010 when you&#8217;re fully focused on marketing and R&#038;D.<br />
-jp</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Chase</title>
		<link>http://www.mspmentor.net/2009/11/18/should-msp-ceos-focus-mainly-on-sales/comment-page-1/#comment-50817</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Chase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are in the process of doing just that. Training staff to do the things I used to do so that I can focus on pushing our company forward. 

Documenting processes has been invaluable. We have our COO in place, she does a great job running the day to day. We estimate by the end of January 2010 I&#039;ll be 100% focused on Marketing and R&amp;D.

The costs of hiring the staff to cover your existing duties and training are a huge and the work is hard. 

It&#039;s the same as when I started this business 16 years ago. It feels like a gamble, it&#039;s like betting on yourself all over again. But I love the ride.

-Chris Chase</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are in the process of doing just that. Training staff to do the things I used to do so that I can focus on pushing our company forward. </p>
<p>Documenting processes has been invaluable. We have our COO in place, she does a great job running the day to day. We estimate by the end of January 2010 I&#8217;ll be 100% focused on Marketing and R&amp;D.</p>
<p>The costs of hiring the staff to cover your existing duties and training are a huge and the work is hard. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s the same as when I started this business 16 years ago. It feels like a gamble, it&#8217;s like betting on yourself all over again. But I love the ride.</p>
<p>-Chris Chase</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Panettieri</title>
		<link>http://www.mspmentor.net/2009/11/18/should-msp-ceos-focus-mainly-on-sales/comment-page-1/#comment-50815</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Panettieri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gerson: I think you&#039;re onto something. When we launched Nine Lives Media Inc. (MSPmentor&#039;s parent), Amy Katz (my business partner) and I made the strategic decision to stay on the road during the recession. Get in front of people and the results are startling...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gerson: I think you&#8217;re onto something. When we launched Nine Lives Media Inc. (MSPmentor&#8217;s parent), Amy Katz (my business partner) and I made the strategic decision to stay on the road during the recession. Get in front of people and the results are startling&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gerson</title>
		<link>http://www.mspmentor.net/2009/11/18/should-msp-ceos-focus-mainly-on-sales/comment-page-1/#comment-50803</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is my eventual goal as well. Great to see they&#039;ve done it. Real entrepeneurs love the challenge and telling their story And that&#039;s out meeting new clients not in the office staring at your PSA.

Gerson

www.degasystems.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is my eventual goal as well. Great to see they&#8217;ve done it. Real entrepeneurs love the challenge and telling their story And that&#8217;s out meeting new clients not in the office staring at your PSA.</p>
<p>Gerson</p>
<p><a href="http://www.degasystems.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.degasystems.com</a></p>
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