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	<title>Comments on: MSPs Embracing Google Apps</title>
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		<title>By: Andy M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Michael Proper

I think everyone would do well to take note of your last comment...

Hint: Focus on scaling your “service” offerings and not reselling “stuff”.

I think the Connectwise CEO has shared this sentiment of late given their investment in hosted services before the announcement of MOS. David said something along the lines of &quot;you gotta get paid for your what you know&quot;

While I was prepared initially to be up in arms against MS and their restrictive low margin opportunity, the recent changes steered me away from Google Apps and also reminded me that resellers of IT stuff have a hard time making boat payments in ANY economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Michael Proper</p>
<p>I think everyone would do well to take note of your last comment&#8230;</p>
<p>Hint: Focus on scaling your “service” offerings and not reselling “stuff”.</p>
<p>I think the Connectwise CEO has shared this sentiment of late given their investment in hosted services before the announcement of MOS. David said something along the lines of &#8220;you gotta get paid for your what you know&#8221;</p>
<p>While I was prepared initially to be up in arms against MS and their restrictive low margin opportunity, the recent changes steered me away from Google Apps and also reminded me that resellers of IT stuff have a hard time making boat payments in ANY economy.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy M</title>
		<link>http://www.mspmentor.net/2009/11/18/msps-embracing-google-apps/comment-page-1/#comment-50821</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something that has been downplayed lately is Microsoft&#039;s agressive price drop and storage increase. $5/month per mailbox for hosted exchange and $10 for the BPOS suite (includes sharepoint, livemeeting and communicator). This also includes a 25GB per mailbox increase for aggregated storage.

Also, as a partner we just recieved 250 free BPOS licenses for internal use, which is about a $2500/month value. No cost to join the program, took less than a day to complete requirements.

The invoicing and 12%/6% still isnt great, but they are offering $500 deployment incentives and anyway do we really want to sell email accounts for a living?

LotusLive is touting a price drop for the web mail (iNotes or whatever) for $3/user/month. This isnt as interesting to me as their Connections product (previously I beta tested it as BlueHouse) which is a secure social network/project management/collaboration site that allows you to work with co-workers as well as customers/contractors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something that has been downplayed lately is Microsoft&#8217;s agressive price drop and storage increase. $5/month per mailbox for hosted exchange and $10 for the BPOS suite (includes sharepoint, livemeeting and communicator). This also includes a 25GB per mailbox increase for aggregated storage.</p>
<p>Also, as a partner we just recieved 250 free BPOS licenses for internal use, which is about a $2500/month value. No cost to join the program, took less than a day to complete requirements.</p>
<p>The invoicing and 12%/6% still isnt great, but they are offering $500 deployment incentives and anyway do we really want to sell email accounts for a living?</p>
<p>LotusLive is touting a price drop for the web mail (iNotes or whatever) for $3/user/month. This isnt as interesting to me as their Connections product (previously I beta tested it as BlueHouse) which is a secure social network/project management/collaboration site that allows you to work with co-workers as well as customers/contractors.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Panettieri</title>
		<link>http://www.mspmentor.net/2009/11/18/msps-embracing-google-apps/comment-page-1/#comment-50814</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Panettieri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Niv@4: Keep an eye on MSPmentor today (Nov. 19). Video interview followup with Bellini coming today. Topics include IT nation in the cloud.

Michael@5: Thanks again for your time back at CompTIA Breakaway. You opened my eyes to a few things.

Jeff@6: Thanks for your time at ConnectWise Partner Summit. Looking forward to continued updates from you and Stephen Cho.
-jp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Niv@4: Keep an eye on MSPmentor today (Nov. 19). Video interview followup with Bellini coming today. Topics include IT nation in the cloud.</p>
<p>Michael@5: Thanks again for your time back at CompTIA Breakaway. You opened my eyes to a few things.</p>
<p>Jeff@6: Thanks for your time at ConnectWise Partner Summit. Looking forward to continued updates from you and Stephen Cho.<br />
-jp</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Ragusa</title>
		<link>http://www.mspmentor.net/2009/11/18/msps-embracing-google-apps/comment-page-1/#comment-50811</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Ragusa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is great to hear Joe.  We&#039;re looking forward to growing this momentum with MSPs who see the monetization opportunities in bringing, supporting, and managing high value / low cost applications for clients.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is great to hear Joe.  We&#8217;re looking forward to growing this momentum with MSPs who see the monetization opportunities in bringing, supporting, and managing high value / low cost applications for clients.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Proper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Proper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2010 will be a key year for MSP&#039;s, Google Apps &amp; open source which will be a primary driver of the global reset in IT spending expectations.

With less money flowing into the pockets of fewer vendors, we can expect to see both increased consolidation and fierce competition for the IT spending that remains. Those MSP&#039;s &amp; vendors that can help CIOs &amp; business owners do more with less stand to benefit from this shift to low-cost, high-value computing.

And those that can&#039;t? Well, let&#039;s just say they may pine for the good old days of the global recession.

Hint: Focus on scaling your &quot;service&quot; offerings and not reselling &quot;stuff&quot;.

Michael Proper

CEO &amp; Chairman
C: 801.361.6453
O: 801.851.5556
www.clearcenter.com
www.clearfoundation.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2010 will be a key year for MSP&#8217;s, Google Apps &amp; open source which will be a primary driver of the global reset in IT spending expectations.</p>
<p>With less money flowing into the pockets of fewer vendors, we can expect to see both increased consolidation and fierce competition for the IT spending that remains. Those MSP&#8217;s &amp; vendors that can help CIOs &amp; business owners do more with less stand to benefit from this shift to low-cost, high-value computing.</p>
<p>And those that can&#8217;t? Well, let&#8217;s just say they may pine for the good old days of the global recession.</p>
<p>Hint: Focus on scaling your &#8220;service&#8221; offerings and not reselling &#8220;stuff&#8221;.</p>
<p>Michael Proper</p>
<p>CEO &amp; Chairman<br />
C: 801.361.6453<br />
O: 801.851.5556<br />
<a href="http://www.clearcenter.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.clearcenter.com</a><br />
<a href="http://www.clearfoundation.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.clearfoundation.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Niv Dolgin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niv Dolgin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re very glad to see more MSPs/VARs involved in the Google Apps space. I&#039;m eargly awaiting the result of the survey. We think that the only way to foster the Cloud&#039;s sense of legitimacy and validity from the Market&#039;s perspective is through the Channel; The IT Nation, per Bellini. 

Arnie&#039;s keynote not only mentions Google, but SADA Systems, Inc. in the same breath, we helped facilitate that visit. Some MSPs, SADA Systems included, have gone well beyond just kicking the tires. I personally hope we&#039;re not alone? In fact, by virtue of our established Cloud Service Practice around Google and their Apps platform, we&#039;re helping lead the charge for MSPs and their entry into the Cloud through our most recent Channel  offering, thecloudtoolkit.com. SADA delivers these tools to VARs/MSPs, who need zero-resistance options to deliver a complete and seamless Cloud experience for their already uncertain, sometimes skeptical market. 

We too are not suggesting blind adoption. Rather, we think that VARs and MSPs become engaged in discussions with their clients about the Cloud, what their options are, understand their needs, and if appropriate, help move them into Apps, BPOS, or whatever appropriate platform. 

Niv Dolgin
Director, ITS
SADA Systems, Inc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re very glad to see more MSPs/VARs involved in the Google Apps space. I&#8217;m eargly awaiting the result of the survey. We think that the only way to foster the Cloud&#8217;s sense of legitimacy and validity from the Market&#8217;s perspective is through the Channel; The IT Nation, per Bellini. </p>
<p>Arnie&#8217;s keynote not only mentions Google, but SADA Systems, Inc. in the same breath, we helped facilitate that visit. Some MSPs, SADA Systems included, have gone well beyond just kicking the tires. I personally hope we&#8217;re not alone? In fact, by virtue of our established Cloud Service Practice around Google and their Apps platform, we&#8217;re helping lead the charge for MSPs and their entry into the Cloud through our most recent Channel  offering, thecloudtoolkit.com. SADA delivers these tools to VARs/MSPs, who need zero-resistance options to deliver a complete and seamless Cloud experience for their already uncertain, sometimes skeptical market. </p>
<p>We too are not suggesting blind adoption. Rather, we think that VARs and MSPs become engaged in discussions with their clients about the Cloud, what their options are, understand their needs, and if appropriate, help move them into Apps, BPOS, or whatever appropriate platform. </p>
<p>Niv Dolgin<br />
Director, ITS<br />
SADA Systems, Inc.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Edwards</title>
		<link>http://www.mspmentor.net/2009/11/18/msps-embracing-google-apps/comment-page-1/#comment-50794</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Joe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Joe.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Panettieri</title>
		<link>http://www.mspmentor.net/2009/11/18/msps-embracing-google-apps/comment-page-1/#comment-50792</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Panettieri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin: I believe roughly 400 resellers are officially part of the Google Apps Reseller program. But there are plenty of VARs/MSPs promoting Google Apps to customers without being an official reseller, from what I hear.
-jp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin: I believe roughly 400 resellers are officially part of the Google Apps Reseller program. But there are plenty of VARs/MSPs promoting Google Apps to customers without being an official reseller, from what I hear.<br />
-jp</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Edwards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has Google released the number of Google App Resellers they currently have in the program?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has Google released the number of Google App Resellers they currently have in the program?</p>
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