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	<title>Comments on: Two Tips for Mid-Market Managed Services Success</title>
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		<title>By: Joe Panettieri</title>
		<link>http://www.mspmentor.net/2009/05/06/two-tips-for-mid-market-managed-services-success/comment-page-1/#comment-48018</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Panettieri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 22:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug: Congrats. I noticed you delivered a daily double today, posting a comment here and on TheVARguy.com. Thanks for your readership and perspective. I truly appreciate it.
-jp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug: Congrats. I noticed you delivered a daily double today, posting a comment here and on TheVARguy.com. Thanks for your readership and perspective. I truly appreciate it.<br />
-jp</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Ford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Ford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 22:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are approaching managed services with a very opportunistic outlook. Every customer can benefit from managed services in one way or another. Some may buy into an entirely outsourced IT model while others may only want to leverage monitoring and alert notification. In any case, we come to the table with solutions that best meet the customers needs.

We do, however, try to reach a C-Level before we reach an IT Manager. Our value proposition is not a technical proposition, it is a business proposition. If we can reach a C-Level, explain the ROI and lower TCO that comes from leveraging a managed service provider we almost always win. If we are pushed down to an IT Manager or Director of IT we typically have to fall back on portions of managed services like helpdesk only or monitoring and alert notification.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are approaching managed services with a very opportunistic outlook. Every customer can benefit from managed services in one way or another. Some may buy into an entirely outsourced IT model while others may only want to leverage monitoring and alert notification. In any case, we come to the table with solutions that best meet the customers needs.</p>
<p>We do, however, try to reach a C-Level before we reach an IT Manager. Our value proposition is not a technical proposition, it is a business proposition. If we can reach a C-Level, explain the ROI and lower TCO that comes from leveraging a managed service provider we almost always win. If we are pushed down to an IT Manager or Director of IT we typically have to fall back on portions of managed services like helpdesk only or monitoring and alert notification.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Panettieri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Panettieri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 05:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charon79m, Erik: No doubt, one size does not fit all. But certainly, the customer qualification process was a big theme at the event.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charon79m, Erik: No doubt, one size does not fit all. But certainly, the customer qualification process was a big theme at the event.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 04:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe, I agree, these are good suggestions that should be plugged into the formula to some degree, but Charon makes a compelling point.

I see no reason why one couldn&#039;t gauge the best way to proceed within the profiling/qualification process.  If you are asking great questions and being a good listener then you should be able to identify whether the client&#039;s headache is a a staff/personality issue, a staff/process issue, or a staff/resource issue. If the first, great advice to throw the opening pitch of the ball game on home turf, otherwise I go with Charon&#039;s technique.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe, I agree, these are good suggestions that should be plugged into the formula to some degree, but Charon makes a compelling point.</p>
<p>I see no reason why one couldn&#8217;t gauge the best way to proceed within the profiling/qualification process.  If you are asking great questions and being a good listener then you should be able to identify whether the client&#8217;s headache is a a staff/personality issue, a staff/process issue, or a staff/resource issue. If the first, great advice to throw the opening pitch of the ball game on home turf, otherwise I go with Charon&#8217;s technique.</p>
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		<title>By: Charon79m</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charon79m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 03:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I agree that there may be a time for this, I do not think that these should be hard-fast rules.  There were plenty of other presenters that made the point that the IT-Managers in many of these organizations had their &quot;hair on fire&quot; and would welcome you in the door... even help you get meetings with the CEO-CIO-CTO.  You just needed to present the case that you were there to help the IT-Manager be more efficient by taking on the responsibility of dealing with the day-to-day management tasks that distract his attention from driving the business forward.

Once you hat that &quot;in,&quot; you could then work little by little to gain the trust and contacts to eventually take more and more of the pie.

I&#039;ve attended many conferences over quite a large array of topics and this year&#039;s Seismic Partner Conference was BY FAR the best event I&#039;ve attended.  Yes, the presenters were great (I guess I&#039;d even lump Joe&#039;s talk in this category), but the hallway and lunch conversations were exceptional!  If you have a chance to attend next year, GO!  You won&#039;t regret it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree that there may be a time for this, I do not think that these should be hard-fast rules.  There were plenty of other presenters that made the point that the IT-Managers in many of these organizations had their &#8220;hair on fire&#8221; and would welcome you in the door&#8230; even help you get meetings with the CEO-CIO-CTO.  You just needed to present the case that you were there to help the IT-Manager be more efficient by taking on the responsibility of dealing with the day-to-day management tasks that distract his attention from driving the business forward.</p>
<p>Once you hat that &#8220;in,&#8221; you could then work little by little to gain the trust and contacts to eventually take more and more of the pie.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve attended many conferences over quite a large array of topics and this year&#8217;s Seismic Partner Conference was BY FAR the best event I&#8217;ve attended.  Yes, the presenters were great (I guess I&#8217;d even lump Joe&#8217;s talk in this category), but the hallway and lunch conversations were exceptional!  If you have a chance to attend next year, GO!  You won&#8217;t regret it.</p>
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