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	<title>Comments on: Managed Print Services Association (MPSA) Launching In April</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous Sendor</title>
		<link>http://www.mspmentor.net/2009/02/26/managed-print-services-association-launching-in-april/comment-page-1/#comment-50143</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous Sendor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 15:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow...the amount vendor &quot;chewing&quot; in this blog absolutely is amazing. Proves that a lot of you are still in the business of manipulating data to prove you are a &quot;best practice&quot; solution. I agree with the few that question motives that in the end always recommend new hardware to the solution without proper eval of workflows. Until this product offering actually becomes viable from a consultative level, most client cultures with reject these assumptions and approaches.

Unfortunately, some of you will be disappointed to find out that I for one will not join the incredible waste of time of trying to figure out how to solve the culture war within the BTA industry. David Ramos is NOT the sender of this reply!!!!!

Most of you are missing the point from the buyers side of the desk and will destroy credible opportunities by jumping into the &quot;I want to replace your owned devices with the ones I sell.&quot;

I appologize for the anonymous message and will not provide e-mail or contact information yet. I am not an industry outsider and in fact am very much an insider. My compliments to the fairly few consultative comments from people that appear to &quot;get it&quot;. Culture is hard to change and with such disparate and self servicing approaches, I applaud the efforts of a few to develop consultative methods that don&#039;t live through so many assumptions that inevitably result in a proposal for new &quot;consolidation&quot; strategies&quot; that always result in &quot;buy my hardware&quot;. As long as manufacturers require dealers to have quotas to buy equipment, and reps have comp plans to sell copiers, no one will appear to be selling solutions...only replace with my copier! Transparent as hell....!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;the amount vendor &#8220;chewing&#8221; in this blog absolutely is amazing. Proves that a lot of you are still in the business of manipulating data to prove you are a &#8220;best practice&#8221; solution. I agree with the few that question motives that in the end always recommend new hardware to the solution without proper eval of workflows. Until this product offering actually becomes viable from a consultative level, most client cultures with reject these assumptions and approaches.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, some of you will be disappointed to find out that I for one will not join the incredible waste of time of trying to figure out how to solve the culture war within the BTA industry. David Ramos is NOT the sender of this reply!!!!!</p>
<p>Most of you are missing the point from the buyers side of the desk and will destroy credible opportunities by jumping into the &#8220;I want to replace your owned devices with the ones I sell.&#8221;</p>
<p>I appologize for the anonymous message and will not provide e-mail or contact information yet. I am not an industry outsider and in fact am very much an insider. My compliments to the fairly few consultative comments from people that appear to &#8220;get it&#8221;. Culture is hard to change and with such disparate and self servicing approaches, I applaud the efforts of a few to develop consultative methods that don&#8217;t live through so many assumptions that inevitably result in a proposal for new &#8220;consolidation&#8221; strategies&#8221; that always result in &#8220;buy my hardware&#8221;. As long as manufacturers require dealers to have quotas to buy equipment, and reps have comp plans to sell copiers, no one will appear to be selling solutions&#8230;only replace with my copier! Transparent as hell&#8230;.!</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Walters</title>
		<link>http://www.mspmentor.net/2009/02/26/managed-print-services-association-launching-in-april/comment-page-1/#comment-49760</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Walters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 10:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>April 28, 2009 to August 19, 2009 - MPSA is real.

Tirelessly toiling away, the founding members of the MPSA carved out the charter and pulled together an election process yielding the &quot;charter&quot; Executive Staff and Board members.

Some thought it folly.

Some tried to create it in their own likeness...either way, agree or disagree, cheer or jeer, the MPSA is real, it&#039;s here, and it is ready to include ALL who wish to partake.

In a post over at the LinkedIn Managed Print Services Group, newly elected President, Jim Fitzpatrick, announced the results of the first election for board members and Executive staff.

Here is the announcement, http://bit.ly/2IFZ9</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>April 28, 2009 to August 19, 2009 &#8211; MPSA is real.</p>
<p>Tirelessly toiling away, the founding members of the MPSA carved out the charter and pulled together an election process yielding the &#8220;charter&#8221; Executive Staff and Board members.</p>
<p>Some thought it folly.</p>
<p>Some tried to create it in their own likeness&#8230;either way, agree or disagree, cheer or jeer, the MPSA is real, it&#8217;s here, and it is ready to include ALL who wish to partake.</p>
<p>In a post over at the LinkedIn Managed Print Services Group, newly elected President, Jim Fitzpatrick, announced the results of the first election for board members and Executive staff.</p>
<p>Here is the announcement, <a href="http://bit.ly/2IFZ9" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/2IFZ9</a></p>
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		<title>By: Joe Panettieri</title>
		<link>http://www.mspmentor.net/2009/02/26/managed-print-services-association-launching-in-april/comment-page-1/#comment-47805</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Panettieri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg: Kudos to you for coming back to the conversation and providing a recap. Please us posed as the MPSA moves forward and generates more news. It&#039;s easy for people to criticize start-up efforts. But I tend to give them the benefit of the doubt, because it takes guts to step into a chaotic market, bring order and fill a void...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg: Kudos to you for coming back to the conversation and providing a recap. Please us posed as the MPSA moves forward and generates more news. It&#8217;s easy for people to criticize start-up efforts. But I tend to give them the benefit of the doubt, because it takes guts to step into a chaotic market, bring order and fill a void&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Walters</title>
		<link>http://www.mspmentor.net/2009/02/26/managed-print-services-association-launching-in-april/comment-page-1/#comment-47804</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Walters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 22:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And so...the Managed Print Conference has ended.

The Definition of MPS is reaching solidity.

The Awards have been given out.

The MPSA is newly formed and actually conducted two votes.

The nay-sayers...where are you?  

Surely, there must be something to criticize from the sidelines...

There are constructive criticisms:  The show was too vague, needed a separate &quot;how to&quot; track; The sessions, at times, seemed to have a &quot;commercial&quot; feel to them; The chili was, &quot;unusual&quot;.

That&#039;s all I heard...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And so&#8230;the Managed Print Conference has ended.</p>
<p>The Definition of MPS is reaching solidity.</p>
<p>The Awards have been given out.</p>
<p>The MPSA is newly formed and actually conducted two votes.</p>
<p>The nay-sayers&#8230;where are you?  </p>
<p>Surely, there must be something to criticize from the sidelines&#8230;</p>
<p>There are constructive criticisms:  The show was too vague, needed a separate &#8220;how to&#8221; track; The sessions, at times, seemed to have a &#8220;commercial&#8221; feel to them; The chili was, &#8220;unusual&#8221;.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s all I heard&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Walters</title>
		<link>http://www.mspmentor.net/2009/02/26/managed-print-services-association-launching-in-april/comment-page-1/#comment-45602</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Walters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken - I know.

I was only foolin&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken &#8211; I know.</p>
<p>I was only foolin&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: ChangeForge &#124; Ken Stewart</title>
		<link>http://www.mspmentor.net/2009/02/26/managed-print-services-association-launching-in-april/comment-page-1/#comment-45597</link>
		<dc:creator>ChangeForge &#124; Ken Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg - I didn&#039;t say they couldn&#039;t be... I just said there were a few who had much more spectacular careers as coaches than as players. Mike Shanahan and Dick Vermeil come to mind... Both played - as quarterbacks even, but their careers were short lived.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg &#8211; I didn&#8217;t say they couldn&#8217;t be&#8230; I just said there were a few who had much more spectacular careers as coaches than as players. Mike Shanahan and Dick Vermeil come to mind&#8230; Both played &#8211; as quarterbacks even, but their careers were short lived.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Panettieri</title>
		<link>http://www.mspmentor.net/2009/02/26/managed-print-services-association-launching-in-april/comment-page-1/#comment-45557</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Panettieri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 03:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All: Shameless plug: Dell is going to add its voice to the managed print services conversation on March 18 during our MSPmentor Live: Hotseat webcast. I can&#039;t say much right now, but some managed print services info is coming during the webcast. &lt;a href=&quot;https://presentations.inxpo.com/Shows/MSPmentor/03-09/Registration/RegistrationPage.htm?AffiliateKey=5635&amp;AffiliateData=blog&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Join me&lt;/a&gt; to learn more.

Max @29: I agree with your point fully. All are welcome to comment on MSPmentor, but cheap shots from anonymous folks aren&#039;t welcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All: Shameless plug: Dell is going to add its voice to the managed print services conversation on March 18 during our MSPmentor Live: Hotseat webcast. I can&#8217;t say much right now, but some managed print services info is coming during the webcast. <a href="https://presentations.inxpo.com/Shows/MSPmentor/03-09/Registration/RegistrationPage.htm?AffiliateKey=5635&#038;AffiliateData=blog" rel="nofollow">Join me</a> to learn more.</p>
<p>Max @29: I agree with your point fully. All are welcome to comment on MSPmentor, but cheap shots from anonymous folks aren&#8217;t welcome.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Walters</title>
		<link>http://www.mspmentor.net/2009/02/26/managed-print-services-association-launching-in-april/comment-page-1/#comment-45556</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Walters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 03:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ahem...Ken, all of my coaches were great players - they told me so...even that Bo Schlembechler guy...but he was my coach for just a week...but I believe everything he told me...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ahem&#8230;Ken, all of my coaches were great players &#8211; they told me so&#8230;even that Bo Schlembechler guy&#8230;but he was my coach for just a week&#8230;but I believe everything he told me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Changeforge &#124; Ken Stewart</title>
		<link>http://www.mspmentor.net/2009/02/26/managed-print-services-association-launching-in-april/comment-page-1/#comment-45544</link>
		<dc:creator>Changeforge &#124; Ken Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 01:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To all, I think this is a wonderful debate helping to bring light and focus to an issue that Joe has hit dead on! MPS is presently many things to many people, and if not executed properly, will yet again help to stoke the fires of mismanagement of our client-base by this industry.

I for one will vote for anyone taking a leadership role at this point to help bring some definition and education to this movement.

In defense of Ed and his group, I think they are hitting things spot on in many areas. With Kearns, we had fashioned MPS programs for over 8 years well before it was &quot;in fashion.&quot; From my experience and research, the research being presented to date is rather accurately capturing what is happening out there.

I support the right and need to ask these questions, but I did want to chime in and let you know I&#039;m finding the juice is in the research. BTW, since when did a great football coach have to be the best football player anyway?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all, I think this is a wonderful debate helping to bring light and focus to an issue that Joe has hit dead on! MPS is presently many things to many people, and if not executed properly, will yet again help to stoke the fires of mismanagement of our client-base by this industry.</p>
<p>I for one will vote for anyone taking a leadership role at this point to help bring some definition and education to this movement.</p>
<p>In defense of Ed and his group, I think they are hitting things spot on in many areas. With Kearns, we had fashioned MPS programs for over 8 years well before it was &#8220;in fashion.&#8221; From my experience and research, the research being presented to date is rather accurately capturing what is happening out there.</p>
<p>I support the right and need to ask these questions, but I did want to chime in and let you know I&#8217;m finding the juice is in the research. BTW, since when did a great football coach have to be the best football player anyway?</p>
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		<title>By: Max Rosenthal</title>
		<link>http://www.mspmentor.net/2009/02/26/managed-print-services-association-launching-in-april/comment-page-1/#comment-45542</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Rosenthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 01:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe: I probably did not explain my point as well as I could have. I also encourage readers to participate on the conversation, and an element of this participation is signing your name and owning your comments versus heckling from the cheap seats while wearing a mask over your face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe: I probably did not explain my point as well as I could have. I also encourage readers to participate on the conversation, and an element of this participation is signing your name and owning your comments versus heckling from the cheap seats while wearing a mask over your face.</p>
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