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	<title>Comments on: Managed Service Providers Abandoning Google Postini?</title>
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		<title>By: Joe Panettieri</title>
		<link>http://www.mspmentor.net/2008/09/19/managed-service-providers-abandoning-google-postini/comment-page-1/#comment-33691</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Panettieri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 16:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris: Thanks for sharing details about your business model. Please share more thoughts as new developmnets with Postini arise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris: Thanks for sharing details about your business model. Please share more thoughts as new developmnets with Postini arise.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.mspmentor.net/2008/09/19/managed-service-providers-abandoning-google-postini/comment-page-1/#comment-33645</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 06:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The company that I work for is Grove Information Systems, which is a Postini Gold Partner, and they are responsible for 40% of Postini&#039;s clients in Europe and Asia. We service more than 350000 clients and we are in constant communication with Google on a first name basis. Our support engineers were trained by Postini themselves and provides 24/7 support to our clients. Support is very important to clients and  that is why whenever there&#039;s potential clients interested in Postini, Google will provide us with the lead as the know that we provide superior support to our clients. We do cater for the European and Asian market, but we also have clients globally and the amount is increasing. Our support is free of charge and most resellers and companies migrate to us because of our good support and pricing discounts.

If you are interested in free and superior support with a response time of less than 15 minutes; also including very competitive pricing, please contact me on ceuropa@groveis.com for assitance. I will make sure that you get the best ROI.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The company that I work for is Grove Information Systems, which is a Postini Gold Partner, and they are responsible for 40% of Postini&#8217;s clients in Europe and Asia. We service more than 350000 clients and we are in constant communication with Google on a first name basis. Our support engineers were trained by Postini themselves and provides 24/7 support to our clients. Support is very important to clients and  that is why whenever there&#8217;s potential clients interested in Postini, Google will provide us with the lead as the know that we provide superior support to our clients. We do cater for the European and Asian market, but we also have clients globally and the amount is increasing. Our support is free of charge and most resellers and companies migrate to us because of our good support and pricing discounts.</p>
<p>If you are interested in free and superior support with a response time of less than 15 minutes; also including very competitive pricing, please contact me on <a href="mailto:ceuropa@groveis.com">ceuropa@groveis.com</a> for assitance. I will make sure that you get the best ROI.</p>
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		<title>By: Janey</title>
		<link>http://www.mspmentor.net/2008/09/19/managed-service-providers-abandoning-google-postini/comment-page-1/#comment-28571</link>
		<dc:creator>Janey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting that at http://psmtp.mobi/customers/c_case_studies.php  Postini&#039;s partner case study is a company called Integarlis and if you check here they just announced a global lead with the services from Webroot - http://www.channelweb.co.uk/crn/news/2227973/integralis-cultivates-webroot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that at <a href="http://psmtp.mobi/customers/c_case_studies.php" rel="nofollow">http://psmtp.mobi/customers/c_case_studies.php</a>  Postini&#8217;s partner case study is a company called Integarlis and if you check here they just announced a global lead with the services from Webroot &#8211; <a href="http://www.channelweb.co.uk/crn/news/2227973/integralis-cultivates-webroot" rel="nofollow">http://www.channelweb.co.uk/crn/news/2227973/integralis-cultivates-webroot</a></p>
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		<title>By: Joe Panettieri</title>
		<link>http://www.mspmentor.net/2008/09/19/managed-service-providers-abandoning-google-postini/comment-page-1/#comment-27340</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Panettieri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Toddsw: Thanks for adding some balanced perspective. Sometimes the media (myself included) is guilty of saying something is &quot;all good&quot; or &quot;all bad.&quot; It&#039;s good to see some balanced perspectives (pro and con) in our comments area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Toddsw: Thanks for adding some balanced perspective. Sometimes the media (myself included) is guilty of saying something is &#8220;all good&#8221; or &#8220;all bad.&#8221; It&#8217;s good to see some balanced perspectives (pro and con) in our comments area.</p>
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		<title>By: toddsw</title>
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		<dc:creator>toddsw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Joe,

Yes, Google has been very responsive. They got back to me within an hour of my initial rfi via their web form. We&#039;ve talked thru specifics of our needs as an MSP and the goals we expect in changing providers. Google was proactive in getting the info to me I needed to help the decision along. They&#039;ve also been good with follow ups to keep the process moving. Overall, great job from their sales team thus far. I&#039;m setting up time w/ their techs to dig deeper into the admin side of things, see the reporting outputs, etc... About the only thing I wouldn&#039;t like is the minimums they charge if we were a smaller MSP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Joe,</p>
<p>Yes, Google has been very responsive. They got back to me within an hour of my initial rfi via their web form. We&#8217;ve talked thru specifics of our needs as an MSP and the goals we expect in changing providers. Google was proactive in getting the info to me I needed to help the decision along. They&#8217;ve also been good with follow ups to keep the process moving. Overall, great job from their sales team thus far. I&#8217;m setting up time w/ their techs to dig deeper into the admin side of things, see the reporting outputs, etc&#8230; About the only thing I wouldn&#8217;t like is the minimums they charge if we were a smaller MSP.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Panettieri</title>
		<link>http://www.mspmentor.net/2008/09/19/managed-service-providers-abandoning-google-postini/comment-page-1/#comment-27330</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Panettieri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 00:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank: Thanks for the added perspective. Our readers appreciate the ongoing dialog from somebody who&#039;s in the trenches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank: Thanks for the added perspective. Our readers appreciate the ongoing dialog from somebody who&#8217;s in the trenches.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Muto</title>
		<link>http://www.mspmentor.net/2008/09/19/managed-service-providers-abandoning-google-postini/comment-page-1/#comment-27328</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Muto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 23:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say yes, but you have others that say no. Then on the other hand, each of us may have different needs or have different business models. All we do is Postini and hosted email services, while others may have more on their menu. 

We have resellers under us, so we communicate on a constant level as needed and answer questions in a timely manner. I&#039;ll say there is always room for improvement, especially during a transition from one management to another. That&#039;s part of the business life cycle.

So for those who have expressed otherwise to you directly, may need to refocus their business model with Google, or move on to other solutions for their clients.


Frank Muto
President
Secure Email Plus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say yes, but you have others that say no. Then on the other hand, each of us may have different needs or have different business models. All we do is Postini and hosted email services, while others may have more on their menu. </p>
<p>We have resellers under us, so we communicate on a constant level as needed and answer questions in a timely manner. I&#8217;ll say there is always room for improvement, especially during a transition from one management to another. That&#8217;s part of the business life cycle.</p>
<p>So for those who have expressed otherwise to you directly, may need to refocus their business model with Google, or move on to other solutions for their clients.</p>
<p>Frank Muto<br />
President<br />
Secure Email Plus</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Panettieri</title>
		<link>http://www.mspmentor.net/2008/09/19/managed-service-providers-abandoning-google-postini/comment-page-1/#comment-27326</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Panettieri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank: Thanks for your thoughts. I never suggested that Google has -- or should -- told the media about margin strategies. 

Rather, I&#039;m wondering if Google has been a solid partner that communicates clearly with solutions providers. Let&#039;s put the media on the sideline for a minute: Has Google communicated effectively and directly with its partners?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank: Thanks for your thoughts. I never suggested that Google has &#8212; or should &#8212; told the media about margin strategies. </p>
<p>Rather, I&#8217;m wondering if Google has been a solid partner that communicates clearly with solutions providers. Let&#8217;s put the media on the sideline for a minute: Has Google communicated effectively and directly with its partners?</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Muto</title>
		<link>http://www.mspmentor.net/2008/09/19/managed-service-providers-abandoning-google-postini/comment-page-1/#comment-27325</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Muto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe, 
Google does not go around blasting in the media what the margins are for their channel, as some others do. They protected their channel and kept the Postini name alive, unlike other buyouts that kill off a reputation. 

Google understood the value and reputation of Postini. Therefore, with the &quot;powered by Postini&quot; name still in play, Google created a powerful statement in saying that it stood behind the channel of those that helped build the Postini brand name. 

So, for all those you say do not think Google understands partnering and the IT channel, have not really thought about it well enough.


Frank Muto
President
Secure Email Plus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe,<br />
Google does not go around blasting in the media what the margins are for their channel, as some others do. They protected their channel and kept the Postini name alive, unlike other buyouts that kill off a reputation. </p>
<p>Google understood the value and reputation of Postini. Therefore, with the &#8220;powered by Postini&#8221; name still in play, Google created a powerful statement in saying that it stood behind the channel of those that helped build the Postini brand name. </p>
<p>So, for all those you say do not think Google understands partnering and the IT channel, have not really thought about it well enough.</p>
<p>Frank Muto<br />
President<br />
Secure Email Plus</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Panettieri</title>
		<link>http://www.mspmentor.net/2008/09/19/managed-service-providers-abandoning-google-postini/comment-page-1/#comment-27324</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Panettieri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toddsw: Have you made inquiries to Google about their offerings, and has Google been responsive? Curious to hear (read) about your experiences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toddsw: Have you made inquiries to Google about their offerings, and has Google been responsive? Curious to hear (read) about your experiences.</p>
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