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	<title>Comments on: Meet the Most Successful SaaS Companies Wall Street Doesn&#8217;t Know</title>
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		<title>By: Joe Panettieri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Panettieri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Stu: I guess my main point is this...

1. Lots of &quot;SaaS&quot; companies are struggling to get their business models right. Yet they benefit from SaaS hype.
2. Lots of MSP platform providers have perfected SaaS -- but few analysts (tech, financial or otherwise) realize that fact. The MSP folks should seek the SaaS credit they deserve when raising money and/or moving into public markets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Stu: I guess my main point is this&#8230;</p>
<p>1. Lots of &#8220;SaaS&#8221; companies are struggling to get their business models right. Yet they benefit from SaaS hype.<br />
2. Lots of MSP platform providers have perfected SaaS &#8212; but few analysts (tech, financial or otherwise) realize that fact. The MSP folks should seek the SaaS credit they deserve when raising money and/or moving into public markets.</p>
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		<title>By: StuFinancesTech</title>
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		<dc:creator>StuFinancesTech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since its for a specific product (the first S in the SAAS), it seems to me thats its not a business model, just a delivery model. As an outsider looking in, it seems no different to me than you moving from break/fix to the many remote monitoring and maintenance services out there that you guys now implement and offer.

If an MSP has no intention of going public, then I dont see how it matters very much except that more standardization of services make for more efficient and profitable operations. I&#039;d think you guys would embrace it since you are already doing an AAS model yourselves but its maintenance, network mgmt, or whatever you want to call it, as a service.

The only issue I see, and it seems like one you can make $$ on are the cloud/multiple cloud issues that come up.


Stu</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since its for a specific product (the first S in the SAAS), it seems to me thats its not a business model, just a delivery model. As an outsider looking in, it seems no different to me than you moving from break/fix to the many remote monitoring and maintenance services out there that you guys now implement and offer.</p>
<p>If an MSP has no intention of going public, then I dont see how it matters very much except that more standardization of services make for more efficient and profitable operations. I&#8217;d think you guys would embrace it since you are already doing an AAS model yourselves but its maintenance, network mgmt, or whatever you want to call it, as a service.</p>
<p>The only issue I see, and it seems like one you can make $$ on are the cloud/multiple cloud issues that come up.</p>
<p>Stu</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Vossburg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Vossburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There isn&#039;t a lot of danger in the short term, because most MSPs would never say to client, &quot;Why buy a SBS box when you can host your email, data, and apps for a fraction of the cost at $x/user a month and never buy licensing again!&quot;  

We make too much on project installs and reoccurring fees babysitting SBS boxes.  Since MSPs are undoubtedly one of strongest influencers over technology buying decisions of Small Businesses, most will continue the same old strategy.  

However, what happens when Dell, Microsoft, and others spend billions of dollars in marketing/sales on educating Small Business owners of their options and the benefit of SaaS model?

One of the reasons why the Small Business market has been unattractive to these mammoth IT companies is because of the complexity of the market.  Its too diverse to standardize, client XYZ&#039;s SBS box is not running exactly same config as Client XXZ&#039;s SBS box.  So take away the box in the first place and just give the business what it needs, then you control the infrastructure and its completely standardized.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There isn&#8217;t a lot of danger in the short term, because most MSPs would never say to client, &#8220;Why buy a SBS box when you can host your email, data, and apps for a fraction of the cost at $x/user a month and never buy licensing again!&#8221;  </p>
<p>We make too much on project installs and reoccurring fees babysitting SBS boxes.  Since MSPs are undoubtedly one of strongest influencers over technology buying decisions of Small Businesses, most will continue the same old strategy.  </p>
<p>However, what happens when Dell, Microsoft, and others spend billions of dollars in marketing/sales on educating Small Business owners of their options and the benefit of SaaS model?</p>
<p>One of the reasons why the Small Business market has been unattractive to these mammoth IT companies is because of the complexity of the market.  Its too diverse to standardize, client XYZ&#8217;s SBS box is not running exactly same config as Client XXZ&#8217;s SBS box.  So take away the box in the first place and just give the business what it needs, then you control the infrastructure and its completely standardized.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Panettieri</title>
		<link>http://www.mspmentor.net/2008/08/20/meet-the-most-successful-saas-companies-wall-steet-doesnt-know/comment-page-1/#comment-25407</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Panettieri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nick: You just hit a nerve with me when you mentioned Microsoft Small Business Server. I think the latest SBS product launch is a non-event. I know a lot of VARs still make great money off SBS. But as I look out longer term, I think it&#039;s a dead-end product/strategy to continue deploying big, fat, complex servers in small business settings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nick: You just hit a nerve with me when you mentioned Microsoft Small Business Server. I think the latest SBS product launch is a non-event. I know a lot of VARs still make great money off SBS. But as I look out longer term, I think it&#8217;s a dead-end product/strategy to continue deploying big, fat, complex servers in small business settings.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Vossburg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Vossburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im with you Joe.  There is a reason that Micro$oft is expanding its data center capacity at a phenomenal rate.  

If you&#039;re a small business and your presented with two options, which would you choose?

Option 1. 

Buy a Server, Put it in your office or pay for Collocation
Purchase MS SBS Server Licensing and CALs
Purchase Office Licensing for your Staff
Contract a MSP to manage it all for you
Repeat process every 3-5 years

OR

Option 2.

Pay monthly fee to have your needed Apps/Data delivered via SaaS


We&#039;re getting excellent reception to Option 2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im with you Joe.  There is a reason that Micro$oft is expanding its data center capacity at a phenomenal rate.  </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re a small business and your presented with two options, which would you choose?</p>
<p>Option 1. </p>
<p>Buy a Server, Put it in your office or pay for Collocation<br />
Purchase MS SBS Server Licensing and CALs<br />
Purchase Office Licensing for your Staff<br />
Contract a MSP to manage it all for you<br />
Repeat process every 3-5 years</p>
<p>OR</p>
<p>Option 2.</p>
<p>Pay monthly fee to have your needed Apps/Data delivered via SaaS</p>
<p>We&#8217;re getting excellent reception to Option 2.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Panettieri</title>
		<link>http://www.mspmentor.net/2008/08/20/meet-the-most-successful-saas-companies-wall-steet-doesnt-know/comment-page-1/#comment-25401</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Panettieri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 15:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nick: I&#039;m suggesting MSPs take both steps. 

There&#039;s an old saying: Keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer. Whether MSPs embrace or fear SaaS strategies from Microsoft, Dell and others, the MSPs need to study and understand those services in order to (A) compete effectively and (B) offer consistent responses to customers about such services.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nick: I&#8217;m suggesting MSPs take both steps. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s an old saying: Keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer. Whether MSPs embrace or fear SaaS strategies from Microsoft, Dell and others, the MSPs need to study and understand those services in order to (A) compete effectively and (B) offer consistent responses to customers about such services.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Vossburg</title>
		<link>http://www.mspmentor.net/2008/08/20/meet-the-most-successful-saas-companies-wall-steet-doesnt-know/comment-page-1/#comment-25399</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Vossburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 15:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe,

I&#039;m a little confused, are you saying MSPs need to embrace SaaS or just the vocabulary?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a little confused, are you saying MSPs need to embrace SaaS or just the vocabulary?</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Panettieri</title>
		<link>http://www.mspmentor.net/2008/08/20/meet-the-most-successful-saas-companies-wall-steet-doesnt-know/comment-page-1/#comment-25398</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Panettieri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What? Not a single comment from readers on this? Are MSPs simply ignoring the SaaS connection? Or was my blog entry off-target? I thought this particular entry would stir some healthy debate and my ego took a hit when I saw zero comments ;-)

-jp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What? Not a single comment from readers on this? Are MSPs simply ignoring the SaaS connection? Or was my blog entry off-target? I thought this particular entry would stir some healthy debate and my ego took a hit when I saw zero comments <img src='http://c810422.r22.cf2.rackcdn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>-jp</p>
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