Comments on: Symantec Launches One-Two Punch In Managed Services http://www.mspmentor.net/2008/02/19/symantec-launches-one-two-punch-in-managed-services/ Managed Services Blog for Top Managed Service Providers Sat, 20 Mar 2010 04:17:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Michael Petrov http://www.mspmentor.net/2008/02/19/symantec-launches-one-two-punch-in-managed-services/comment-page-1/#comment-2729 Michael Petrov Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:23:59 +0000 http://www.mspmentor.net/2008/02/19/symantec-launches-one-two-punch-in-managed-services/#comment-2729 Compunite, Agree with you. You are 100% right. It is not a brainer to build big data storage. The problem is the data transfer. The cost of data transfer. Big guys are late in the game but they have huge marketing potential. Remember FexEx was trying to get into electronic files delivery. They put so much money in advertising. At the same time smaller companies had solutions on their own. Talk to ad agencies uploading downloading high resolution presentations for proofing. Again, if people don't understand that the problem is the data transfer, they don't know IT. I think this is because consumer bandwidth, FIOS, RoadRunner and others put that idea of 50Mpbs for $50. Try to get it for real datacenter with redundancy and quality of bandwith. Thanks for your comments. Hope you will read it. Compunite,
Agree with you. You are 100% right. It is not a brainer to build big data storage. The problem is the data transfer. The cost of data transfer.
Big guys are late in the game but they have huge marketing potential.
Remember FexEx was trying to get into electronic files delivery. They put so much money in advertising. At the same time smaller companies had solutions on their own. Talk to ad agencies uploading downloading high resolution presentations for proofing.
Again, if people don’t understand that the problem is the data transfer, they don’t know IT.
I think this is because consumer bandwidth, FIOS, RoadRunner and others put that idea of 50Mpbs for $50. Try to get it for real datacenter with redundancy and quality of bandwith.
Thanks for your comments. Hope you will read it.

]]> By: Compunite http://www.mspmentor.net/2008/02/19/symantec-launches-one-two-punch-in-managed-services/comment-page-1/#comment-2503 Compunite Sat, 01 Mar 2008 20:00:10 +0000 http://www.mspmentor.net/2008/02/19/symantec-launches-one-two-punch-in-managed-services/#comment-2503 Guys the big boys symantec, Amazon you name them are very late in the game and can not take care of the core business out there that makes up the majority (small Businesses) I have been selling off-site backup in a managed offering for 5 years and to cleints on average of 15-25 users, they are the sweet spot and need our services and a hands off approach jus tmake sure to get a service that has a local copy as well as an off-site encrypted component. As for cost people get stuck on that for all the wrong reasons, what matters is Fast Reliable data transfers to a secure data center and a real RTO (Recovery Time Objective) in other words a way to be up and running and FAST!. Guys the big boys symantec, Amazon you name them are very late in the game and can not take care of the core business out there that makes up the majority (small Businesses)
I have been selling off-site backup in a managed offering for 5 years and to cleints on average of 15-25 users, they are the sweet spot and need our services and a hands off approach jus tmake sure to get a service that has a local copy as well as an off-site encrypted component.

As for cost people get stuck on that for all the wrong reasons, what matters is Fast Reliable data transfers to a secure data center and a real RTO (Recovery Time Objective) in other words a way to be up and running and FAST!.

]]> By: Josh Clifford http://www.mspmentor.net/2008/02/19/symantec-launches-one-two-punch-in-managed-services/comment-page-1/#comment-2335 Josh Clifford Wed, 27 Feb 2008 05:51:59 +0000 http://www.mspmentor.net/2008/02/19/symantec-launches-one-two-punch-in-managed-services/#comment-2335 Backup exec is costly to manage and maintain – upgrades, agents, did you change the tape, etc. Backup exec offers no business continuity The cost per gig per month is headed in the right direction but I would rather pay fifty cents per gig per month since every Tom, Dick, and Harry can put a server up at the Planet for nothing and start selling online backup services – I am sure you have seen the bargain basement prices being offered in the race to the bottom, I know my clients have we get calls about it every day. I also agree that Symantec is late to the game. They are just getting started while other partners are figuring out what the offering of the future will look like to the MSP and to our clients. -JC www.everonit.com www.smbitpros.com Backup exec is costly to manage and maintain – upgrades, agents, did you change the tape, etc.

Backup exec offers no business continuity

The cost per gig per month is headed in the right direction but I would rather pay fifty cents per gig per month since every Tom, Dick, and Harry can put a server up at the Planet for nothing and start selling online backup services – I am sure you have seen the bargain basement prices being offered in the race to the bottom, I know my clients have we get calls about it every day.

I also agree that Symantec is late to the game. They are just getting started while other partners are figuring out what the offering of the future will look like to the MSP and to our clients.

-JC

http://www.everonit.com
http://www.smbitpros.com

]]> By: mpetrov http://www.mspmentor.net/2008/02/19/symantec-launches-one-two-punch-in-managed-services/comment-page-1/#comment-2268 mpetrov Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:44:40 +0000 http://www.mspmentor.net/2008/02/19/symantec-launches-one-two-punch-in-managed-services/#comment-2268 For some reason nobody is taking about cost of data transferring, frequencies of data transfer and speed. Those questions are crucial for high performance high availability environments. It might suite small businesses but I don’t think it will ever attract enterprise IT. For some reason nobody is taking about cost of data transferring, frequencies of data transfer and speed. Those questions are crucial for high performance high availability environments. It might suite small businesses but I don’t think it will ever attract enterprise IT.

]]> By: Joe Panettieri http://www.mspmentor.net/2008/02/19/symantec-launches-one-two-punch-in-managed-services/comment-page-1/#comment-2126 Joe Panettieri Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:21:22 +0000 http://www.mspmentor.net/2008/02/19/symantec-launches-one-two-punch-in-managed-services/#comment-2126 Kelly: Symantec indicated to me that online backup over SPN starts at $25/month for 5GB. Online storage for Backup Exec starts at $38/month for 10GB. Symantec has not publicly stated how much margin MSPs and VARs will receive. However, company representatives have told me that down the road, VARs will be able to set their own markup prices for the back-end Symantec services. You can get more info by visiting www.spn.com. Kelly: Symantec indicated to me that online backup over SPN starts at $25/month for 5GB. Online storage for Backup Exec starts at $38/month for 10GB. Symantec has not publicly stated how much margin MSPs and VARs will receive. However, company representatives have told me that down the road, VARs will be able to set their own markup prices for the back-end Symantec services. You can get more info by visiting http://www.spn.com.

]]> By: Kelly http://www.mspmentor.net/2008/02/19/symantec-launches-one-two-punch-in-managed-services/comment-page-1/#comment-2121 Kelly Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:49:25 +0000 http://www.mspmentor.net/2008/02/19/symantec-launches-one-two-punch-in-managed-services/#comment-2121 Has symantec stated pricing and margin opportunity for protection network? Is there a special deal that makes bundling protection network with backup exec an appealing buy for customers? Has symantec stated pricing and margin opportunity for protection network? Is there a special deal that makes bundling protection network with backup exec an appealing buy for customers?

]]> By: Victor S http://www.mspmentor.net/2008/02/19/symantec-launches-one-two-punch-in-managed-services/comment-page-1/#comment-2105 Victor S Wed, 20 Feb 2008 03:10:31 +0000 http://www.mspmentor.net/2008/02/19/symantec-launches-one-two-punch-in-managed-services/#comment-2105 Like so many other things from symantec these days, the protection network is way late to market. Thousands of symantec partners have already looked elsewhere for online storage options. Like so many other things from symantec these days, the protection network is way late to market. Thousands of symantec partners have already looked elsewhere for online storage options.

]]> By: Nick http://www.mspmentor.net/2008/02/19/symantec-launches-one-two-punch-in-managed-services/comment-page-1/#comment-2104 Nick Wed, 20 Feb 2008 03:05:25 +0000 http://www.mspmentor.net/2008/02/19/symantec-launches-one-two-punch-in-managed-services/#comment-2104 Hats off. You are the only site mentioning the clear link between Backup Exec and SPN. We've been on Backup Exec for about three years and SPN seems like a natural next step assuming it actually works. We usually wait six to twelve months before using a new Symantec release because we got burned with some earlier stuff from them. But the whole saas movement seems unavoidable. Hats off. You are the only site mentioning the clear link between Backup Exec and SPN. We’ve been on Backup Exec for about three years and SPN seems like a natural next step assuming it actually works. We usually wait six to twelve months before using a new Symantec release because we got burned with some earlier stuff from them. But the whole saas movement seems unavoidable.

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